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If there are no objections, I'd like to include Ongoing collaborations from the suggestions page in News and notes. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:03, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri Check out the latest suggestions by JMF and Feed Me Your Skin, too! Oltrepier (talk) 20:25, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello everyone! I agree with the concerns raised by JPxG in this discussion that we've still got too little information, except for this article, about the reported request of block of Wikipedia in India, so it's very difficult to say what's going on at the moment.

I suggest we should move that blurb elsewhere, more specifically over at ITM, which is running pretty thin in lead stories, and maybe add some more context. Oltrepier (talk) 13:04, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

According to our content guidance, News and notes is "broad coverage of going-ons within the Wikimedia movement.. cover[ing] all major internal news". So I think a block for one of our top readership populations (and a lot of contributing editors) does qualify for NaN. That said, I dont mind a short item at NaN with more expanded discussion of the media angle at In the media. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:56, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri Yes, definitely, but I thought ITM would be a better place just because news sources on the matter are so thin, at least for now... Oltrepier (talk) 20:44, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It fits both places, but news is scant on both sides also. Wikipedia community members are hesitant to publish personal opinions because they do not want to gain media attention which could over-emphasize their personal comments, and there is no wiki organization in India that broadly speaks for the country. On the media side, the news is lacking, and although multiple sources exist I think they are all copying some original source because they have the same very shallow information. As this is an ongoing legal issue the WMF is not commenting either. Bluerasberry (talk) 17:11, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia community members are hesitant to publish personal opinions because they do not want to gain media attention which could over-emphasize their personal comments, and there is no wiki organization in India that broadly speaks for the country. I can get anonymous (perhaps non anonymous) opinions from individual editors from India on recent news. Just need someone (ideally not User:Bluerasberry) to coordinate with me on questions we're asking. Soni (talk) 06:33, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• A note in In the Media will be more appropriate, yes. Soni (talk) 06:28, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This month's section seems to be very large, and probably should be split off into two or even three pages. I suggest "News from Enwiki" and "News from the movement" as broad categories. But someone else can suggest better. This is kind of bound to happen any issue where I'm writing, or any editions where we're summarising WMF newsletters. So, a general "how we do this" could be nice. Soni (talk) 06:28, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, I wanted to note that one of the 11 conference grants from last year, Wikiconference India 2025 had its grant cancelled. This is relevant to the CIS news story by User:Bluerasberry etc, but I shall not be writing for the story due to COI. I can give others information or pointers about the same. Soni (talk) 06:28, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Soni I've gone ahead and added a short note about WikiConference India in the CIS story.

To be honest, the section doesn't look outrageously large to me at the moment, but yours might be a good idea if we realize there's too much meat left on the grill, so to speak. Actually, I almost prevented myself from adding a note about WLM 2024 winners, because there's already so much going on... Oltrepier (talk) 07:32, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Oltrepier It looks roughly double the size of usual N&N to me already. And I haven't started my 2-3 paragraphs on 2 WMF newsletters, as I usually do. And like you said, there's often more shorter notes we like adding, like WLM 24 winners.

As for the wording you added, I'll note the WCI25's grant was basically affected for the same reason as the CIS license (that the story above already covers). The current wording currently implies a different set of regulations coming in play. Soni (talk) 08:01, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Soni You're right...

I don't know @JPxG and the others would be OK with splitting N&N up in two different sections for this issue, but I guess a good compromise would be moving the stories about Tinucherian's removal from ArbCom and other recent discussions to "Discussion report", which should be an equally fitting column. Does it sound good to you and @Smallbones?

We could also save the story about WLM 2024 for next issue, if @Bluerasberry is still fine about it. It would actually help us to elaborate on the contest a bit more.

On a side note, thank you for clarifying that aspect about WCI25: please let me know if it looks better worded now. Oltrepier (talk) 11:04, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Oltrepier: I moved Wiki Loves Monuments to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Gallery. It is some of our best content, and you are right, at the least we could showcase a gallery of photos. That could happen this issue or next. I am not going to prioritize it for this issue. Bluerasberry (talk) 12:37, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluerasberry Yes, keeping it for the next issue would help us polish it further and paying the right amount of attention to it. Oltrepier (talk) 12:48, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm good with that (Discussion report). I personally do not care what subheadings we call them under, I just have a strong preference for a N&N that does not go too long. The CIS report feels less like News and Notes and more like a detailed report anyway, so that's another strong option to spin off. Soni (talk) 12:45, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I remember a newsroom suggestion earlier this year about AI-summarising recent discussions and WP:RFCs that happen across enwiki. As I despise the use of gen-AI, I shall not be attempting that. Instead, here's a hand-curated section summarising WP:CENT discussions from this year. If we choose to continue this section, it could be a "local news" segment of N&N, where we cover important enough RFCs that have happened over the last few months.

I don't know if any other place curates something like this, I don't follow the dozens of newsletters that currently exist. Keeping the scope to relatively successful CENT notices restricts us to more globally relevant RFCs, and would skip a bunch of snow rejected ones. Both of these are desirable for me

Soni (talk) 09:14, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Soni For now, I've moved your summary to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Discussion report.

I agree it would be an interesting theme to cover, even though I'm not an expert at all on that front... Oltrepier (talk) 12:27, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluerasberry: Regarding this story, I feel sad to have to remind you of the Signpost's conflict of interest policy (see the first paragraph of our Content guidance page).

It's not just that you are generally heavily involved as a volunteer in the organization that your Signpost article praises in glowing terms (e.g. as one of few examples [of] truly global collaboration in the Wikimedia Movement). It also appears that you were specifically working on the hiring yourself that is at the center of your news piece, and were one of the proposal managers for the grant that funds these hires (presumably - your Signpost article is mum on finances).

This is especially disappointing since you have long been very active in calling for scrutiny and accountability regarding other professional organizations in the Wikimedia movement, and love to represent yourself as Signpost journalist when reporting about these (recent example). It seems that this principled stance goes out of the window as soon as it's about an organization you are yourself involved in. I also can't help recalling how the need to formalize the Signpost's COI policy arose just a few years from concerns about a story authored by someone from the same organization (not you, but IIRC someone you had encouraged or invited to contribute).

Regards, HaeB (talk) 18:03, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Will likely not be able to get this done before showtime, so would like to delay it for next time, if possible. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 00:31, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Don't stress out about it. It won't be the last Signpost. ☆ Bri (talk) 00:44, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem. The page has been moved to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next next issue/Technology report. Svampesky (talk) 19:34, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Re your move here: I know this has happened before, but I'd like to remind us all that the "Technology report" section was conceived as independent journalistic reporting (in the sense of "reporter") about "news and developments in the technical platforms used by the Wikimedia project", analogous to the "News and notes" and "In the media" sections (see also the template). The WMF reporting about its own work is a different report genre, and I think using this section title for it muddies the waters for our readers. More practically speaking, in this case it also effectively blocks the section from any independent reporting that Signpost team members may still be able to contribute before publication (I don't know about NightWolf1223, but I might be able to add one item in the next day or two). Regards, HaeB (talk) 04:02, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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