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We need to innovate with Wikimedia decision-making

This article was originally published in Diff on 3 July 2026 by Lodewijk, licensed CC-BY-SA 4.0. He has been a Dutch Wikimedian since 2005 and is now Chair of the Wikimania Steering Committee. He is a researcher in computational social science, working on technology and innovations in deliberative democracy.
This post makes the case that internal decision-making is quietly stuck. A later post will introduce a prototype to see if we can do something about it. This post describes a project of a working group that formed after the Futures Lab in Frankfurt earlier this year, asking itself what open knowledge communities could look like in the age of artificial intelligence.

Wikipedia has proven to be a remarkable way of bringing together different viewpoints on a range of difficult topics, presented in the form of encyclopedia articles. The Wikipedia community manages all this through an approach based on fundamental trust in the ability of its users to collaborate: an open-source spirit of mutual help, and a liberating invitation for people to 'be bold' and just fix the mistakes. It also puts faith in conversations, through the 'talk pages' connected to every article.

Below, I make the case that Wikipedia communities often do not live up to their intent to be inclusive in internal policy-making; that our policies are more conservative than we realize; and that a large part of the reason is structural – the twenty-year-old format we use to make decisions is quietly working against us. Our processes have been designed with an abundance of time in mind, in an era of exponential growth. That time is over. The good news, which I'll come back to in a companion post, is that there are tangible ways to make these processes better.

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Our policies are frozen; not by choice

When I talk to my friends in some of the larger editing communities across the world, I hear less enthusiastic characterizations about our ability to make decisions internally. In a way, that is hardly surprising: Wikipedians are a peculiar type of people, often more motivated by content than by process. And that is OK. But when I ask those same friends what their editorial and behavioral policies look like compared to a few years ago, the same story comes back again and again: the policies were often written in the early 2000s, and haven't changed much. Not for lack of wanting to, but because it is simply hard.

Notable exceptions are projects small enough to fit in a room: they can simply meet, online or offline, and agree on a new direction. The exact size will depend on the amount of trust, cultural coherence, and so on – but communities where you can recognize all your colleagues by their writing style are fundamentally different from communities where you occasionally wonder why someone isn't an admin yet. Another notable deviation is communities that incorporate the policies of another project by reference or direct translation (e.g. Bangla Wikipedia's NPOV policy).

I am myself active on Dutch Wikipedia, one of those sizable communities with a lot of policies from the 2000s. We have added some (the 2005/2006 Biographies of living persons rules, the Universal Code of Conduct), but serious rewrites have mostly fallen flat. I don't know how well my Dutch experience extrapolates here, but this is one rule of thumb I've heard: policies can often be expanded, new rules can be added to deal with edge cases or novel problems – but it is really hard to agree to rethink how we do things. And not because the current policies are so good.

We know from academic literature that implementing change in an organization is notoriously hard to begin with. In our Wikimedia universe, we seem to have encoded even more thresholds – formalized or implied – that make it hard to change policies.

Requests for comment

While there are many corners of Wikimedia policy-making that I have not yet explored, my understanding is that there is a spectrum between "consensus-based" policy-making on one extreme and "voting-based" procedures on the other. English Wikipedia, for example, has an interesting blend of the two, built around the Requests for Comment (RfC) process, which sits mostly on the consensus side. Many of our Wikimedia decision processes, whether it is on-wiki, or in committees, take some elements and assumptions from this process. It would be impossible to discuss each different version and process here – and I will focus on the Requests for comment.

The open-source developers who were a driving force in the Wikipedia community around 2001 were probably more familiar than most people today with what a Request for Comment is supposed to look like. The process is often used to decide on standards, through formal rounds of feedback on a proposal. That makes it very suitable for a setting where you want every expert to weigh in with their best judgment to reach an almost-objectively-correct result.

The way many policy discussions actually play out in Wikimedia is unsatisfactory. In a typical RfC, the proposal is written by a small group of users who often have some incentive to push the policy in a direction. It is then put to their colleagues, who can discuss and criticize it – but who at the same time give opinions on whether it should be adopted. They share arguments, respond to other arguments, propose specific changes that might make them more amenable to support it, and so on. In other words: there's a lot going on at once. The turnout is rarely what you would hope for, in a collaborative project. 150 editors on English Wikipedia, or 50 on Dutch, is considered meaningful.

It is also a very discouraging process at an individual level: when a colleague who is not intimately familiar with these processes wants to participate, it takes a lot of reading-up to understand how the process works, where the discussion is at and how to engage effectively. Not only that, but the process encourages the production of enormous amounts of text and discussion, nearly impossible to process in any reasonable amount of time. This likely biases effective engagement toward a small group of enthusiasts. And the time investment is enormous.

All in all, I see a few challenges that are worth spelling out:

  • They do not involve a broad enough representation. Not everyone has the time and energy to participate. By the way we organize it, the cost of participating in a meaningful way goes up. Especially when you are not a native speaker.
  • There is no reliable way of closing these processes. Especially in an RfC where the topic or proposal text may shift, and where a lot of interpretation is involved. This is particularly visible on Meta, where many proposals are not closed at all, or do not reach a conclusive result.
  • A very small group can dominate the process by simply out-debating everyone else ('veto by attrition'). There are limits to this, but especially on a complex topic, most users who are not very used to the process may feel overwhelmed, and may simply choose not to participate, because they feel they cannot process the entire amount of information to form an informed opinion.
  • Herding is possible (although I am not sure this is definitively established to happen) people may form their opinion based on who has participated before them. This could even be negative herding: once you see that someone you do not like has voted a certain way, you may subconsciously find reasons to object to it.
  • Anchoring. Once people write down that they have a preference for a certain outcome – especially publicly – it's hard to change their minds.
  • It is really, really taxing. It takes a tremendous amount of time to process pages like this, and most of it is not exactly relevant. So when people do, they are likely to miss very good arguments and objections.
  • We make it unnecessarily personal by forcing people to use a forum-style discussion to really just collect feedback and preferences.

This brings risks for representation – but it also just makes the process really exhausting. I have not met many Wikipedians who look forward to these discussions. In Dutch Wikipedia, our processes are a bit different with a cleaner split between discussions and voting, but otherwise a lot of my concerns from above apply as well.

These concerns play out differently depending on the size of the community. This is not a small-wiki problem or a big-wiki problem, but the same format fails in different ways. On a large wiki, the challenge is noise: more voices than any thread can aggregate. In such a messy scenario, a bold veteran may be expected to interpret the whole thread and assess some consensus from two hundred comments. On a small wiki, the challenge is scarcity: discussions die of silence, a handful of regulars may constitute the entire "community", and a single dissenter is both a meaningful percentage of opinion and impossible to outlast – there is simply no one to do the outlasting.

Regardless of size, both scenarios risk drifting toward the in-crowd: when the same few people decide everything, every proposal implicitly critiques something they built. Newcomer dissent reads as social friction with people you'll meet in every future discussion, and conservatism follows almost mechanically. Which deters new participants, which keeps the circle small, which hardens the in-crowd. This is exactly what we do not need, when we need to welcome more colleagues into our movement.

I want to be clear about what I am not saying: that Wikipedians are bad at deliberating. The research suggests the opposite: our policy discussions are remarkably argument-driven and grounded in shared principles. The problem is not the people or the quality of their reasoning; it is that we ask a single, twenty-year-old format to do five different jobs at once: generate ideas, refine wording, measure support, change minds, and legitimize an outcome. Each of those jobs needs a different mindset, and arguably a different structure.

What could better look like?

Luckily, the world of democratic innovation has not been on hold for the past two decades, and there are models out there from which we could learn a thing or two. I don't pretend to have the definitive answer, but the failure modes above point to a few design directions worth exploring. At a high level:

  • Separate the phases. Collecting ideas, improving wording, measuring where the community stands, drafting a good compromise and making a decision are different activities. When they happen in one thread, they sabotage each other – a wording nitpick reads as opposition; an early straw poll freezes a half-baked proposal.
  • Make participation accessible. If expressing a position took a few minutes instead of half an hour of writing and reading, we would hear from many more people – including the silent majority that currently only shows up in our imagination.
  • Decouple opinions from identity. Most of the herding, anchoring, and personalization problems disappear when you can't see who holds a position while you form your own. On a small wiki, it does something more radical still: it makes disagreeing with the in-crowd costless for the first time.
  • Look for agreement. Our current formats surface disagreement by design; you respond to a comment because you object to it. Yet what we usually want to know is the opposite: where does the community already agree? That common ground is the natural foundation to build a proposal on, and today we discover it mostly by accident.

None of this is hypothetical. The civic-tech world has spent the last decade building and testing exactly these ideas – most famously in Taiwan, where the vTaiwan process used a tool called Polis to find unexpected common ground on regulating Uber.

In a later piece, I go a step deeper on what each of these directions could mean in practice – and introduce a prototype that tries to put them to work in our own communities. This prototype may initially work better for committees, wikiprojects or other targeted processes, but hopefully at least manages to trigger the imagination of what a solution could look like where the policy processes take less effort and engage more people. What I hope at least, is that we think and talk about it. Please don't think that your current method is the only possibility!

If this interests you, please reach out! We would love your feedback.

Twenty-five years ago, we built an encyclopedia. I refuse to believe that the way we made decisions in 2004 is the best we can do in 2026. The editors who join us next year deserve rules they can actually read, trust – and change.


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  • Re separating the phases: I'm only an occasional lurker here on enwp, but as far as I've seen that is already done here, or at least is considered standard. — Alien  3
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  • I have, more often than not, been put off participating in Rfc by the sheer volume of comments, particularly the wordage of some comments amounting to essays, or even novellas. I suggest limiting (voluntarily or compulsorily) wordage to say 150 words and giving each contribution a one to five-word bold title. Tony Holkham (Talk) 10:06, 13 July 2026 (UTC)reply
  • There are certainly issues relating to the age of the community, and reluctance to change is one of them. By the same token the original reasons for certain decisions are sometimes still valid, but not obvious to today's Wikipedians, and so can be unwisely ignored. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 08:20, 14 July 2026 (UTC).reply
  • I do believe change in our processes is warranted. However an article in the signpost is probably not a process that will enact change in our processesCzarking0 (talk) 03:41, 15 July 2026 (UTC)reply
  • RU: Одной из важных проблем является старение сообщества, что приводит к смещению восприятия всего нового в сторону консервативного отказа. Речь не про новичков в википедии, а биологического возраста участников википедии. Мне 57 лет и я каждое нововведение встречаю внутренним отказом. И мне приходится осознанно затягивать время участия в обсуждениях ради перелома внутреннего "нет!". Увы, большая часть сообщества не сдерживает себя для проведения анализа, а сразу кидается в контратаку. А после активного выступления "против" очень трудно сменить точку зрения. Старики активно тормозят развитие википедии.

EN: One of the major problems is the aging community, which leads to a shift in the perception of anything new toward conservative rejection. This isn't about newcomers to Wikipedia, but rather the biological age of Wikipedia contributors. I'm 57 years old, and I greet every new development with internal rejection. And I have to consciously prolong my participation in discussions to overcome this internal "no!" Unfortunately, most of the community doesn't restrain itself from analyzing, but immediately launches a counterattack. And once a vocal opposition is expressed, it's very difficult to change one's mind. Older people are actively hindering Wikipedia's development. --VladimirPF (talk) 10:06, 15 July 2026 (UTC)reply

I am another of these old folks. As a newbie at age 58, I had difficulty understanding much of what I found in the profoundly immature Wikipedia of that day. Now twenty years later, I see innovation in content with some suspicion, though am reassured when I can see that it can be adjusted to fit reasonably into our traditional principles. As for proposed changes in our political systems, my conservativism takes the form of reluctance to speak up. If I must speak, it's an attempt at compromise, pointing at the possible advantages and disadvantages of the various offered approaches. This means I'm not a very powerful voice, which fits my kind of conservatism quite nicely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim.henderson (talkcontribs) 22:56, 16 July 2026 (UTC)reply
  • The process is often used to decide on standards, through formal rounds of feedback on a proposal. That makes it very suitable for a setting where you want every expert to weigh in with their best judgment to reach an almost-objectively-correct result.. I've never participated in the IETF, so i don't know what it looks like in practise, but i don't think that is an accurate description of what they are aiming for. As the quote goes, they try and favor running code and rough consensus, not objective perfection. I think people might be interested in reading about how IETF RfCs are supposed to work [1] to compare and contrast with how they work on wikipedia. Bawolff (talk) 12:05, 17 July 2026 (UTC)reply

It is interesting that the reader comments are all from editors who have been around since the days of yore. A 20 year veteran of Wikipedia myself and no spring chicken when I signed up, I have seen the slow evolution of successful collaborative debate degenerate into a rambling, forked, multi-layered morass of ideals vs pragmatism to the extent that the final decision nowadays is often met by just a few remaining participants and perhaps a couple of newbies finding their way - others having dropped away through sheer frustration and/or boredom, simply lost the plot, or been 'out debated'.

I suppose this is characteristic of an organisation (including its owners, the WMF) that has grown so large and unwieldy, that it is too disorganized to function efficiently. Nevertheless, some truly useful changes do occasionally get brought about by some of the older pathfinders of policies and processes who have persevered, hence I cannot concur with Vladimir's theory that older people are actively hindering Wikipedia's development.

The IETF article posits some interesting observations and theories, but a fundamental difference is that their discussions are chaired whereas our RFC are not even moderated, relying instead on non-involved assessment of the results. The WMF is led by rank and pay scale; the community is driven by users who either have leadership and organisational qualities or who are not too timid to make harsh but objective criticisms, but it now gets harder for such people to emerge.

An excellent and highly accurate summary (and suggestions), it's almost as if Lodewijk has looked into my and many other older users' brains and read our thoughts. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:57, 19 July 2026 (UTC)reply

Please share more, I'd love to see a Signpost opinion from yourself. Do you think adding moderators for some subset of discussions is a pragmatic plausibility for our project? Czarking0 (talk) 23:46, 19 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the ask, Czarking0, but I contributed my fair share when I stood in as Editor-in-Chief of The Signpost during 2018 to prevent the press from going completely rusty. It was hard work finding things to write about and not everyone appreciated my tabloid style of journalism, but between us Bri and I got the rollers inked up and turning again, and it certainly generated a vast amount of reader comment. Sometimes The Signpost has been partly instrumental in breaking the deadlock between the Community and the WMF, but I don't think the newspaper carries the same amount of clout it once did. I've participated in many major RfC and launched some myself, but it never crossed my mind about moderation back in those days when big things got done on fairly simple RfC formats with one thing at a time. It might be something to consider nowadays. Maybe Tony has more ideas. I used to start an RfC with something like: 'This is a one-topic debate; no forks please, if you want to divert, please go and start your own RfC'. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:30, 21 July 2026 (UTC)reply
  • The editors who join us next year deserve rules they can actually read, trust – and change. As long as what is already being well done, keeps being so. I've been a registered editor to Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons for less than four years (certainly I'm not an "old school" editor contributing here since the 2000s). I've seen that proposals to modify policies in a way that would change things for the better, are usually difficult to get them approved (both in Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons), and seeing that can be frustrating. But then, I think about some really bad proposals that are also made, and I think that the very same conservative approach to policies that is preventing us from improving, is also protecting us from very dangerous ideas that could make things much worse than they are. I truly think that some things need to change (for example, stricter policies against deletion of articles or Commons media files that have been here for years or even decades, when there is no legal or ethical reason to delete them), but it must not be done in a way that exposes the project to risks that may result in the opposite of the desired goal (for example, if somebody proposes to increase WMF's storage capacity at the expense of backups, that may be popular among technically unaware people, but is a really terrible idea). MGeog2022 (talk) 18:23, 25 July 2026 (UTC)reply
  • I've contributed a lot to the French Wikipedia, but since I was the target of online mobs, I decided to continue my work on the French Wikisource instead. On the French Wikipedia, several contributors enjoy debating to the point of wearing others down; the English Wikipedia is no exception. IMO, the five steps proposed by Lodewijk are in the right direction. Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 18:44, 29 July 2026 (UTC)reply

















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