The Signpost
Single-page Edition
WP:POST/1
30 September 2022

News and notes
Board vote results, bot's big GET, crat chat gives new mop, WMF seeks "sound logo" and "organizer lab"
In focus
NPP: Still heaven or hell for new users – and for the reviewers
In the media
A few complaints and mild disagreements
Special report
Decentralized Fundraising, Centralized Distribution
Discussion report
Much ado about Fox News
Interview
ScottishFinnishRadish's Request for Adminship
Opinion
Are we ever going to reach consensus?
Serendipity
Removing watermarks, copyright signs and cigarettes from photos
Recent research
How readers assess Wikipedia's trustworthiness, and how they could in the future
Traffic report
Kings and queens and VIPs
Featured content
Farm-fresh content
Gallery
A Festival Descends on the City: The Edinburgh Fringe, Pt. 2
CommonsComix
CommonsComix 2: Paulus Moreelse
From the archives
5, 10, and 15 Years ago: September 2022
 

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2022-09-30/From the editors


2022-09-30

Kings and queens and VIPs

This traffic report is adapted from the Top 25 Report, prepared with commentary by YttriumShrew (August 28 to September 24), ElijahPepe (August 28 to September 10), Igordebraga, Kingsif (September 4 to 17), and SSSB (September 11 to 24).

ElijahPepe created an useful tool to make gathering the data for these mostly automated again. And right in the second week with that, the expected surge of British royalty views that would come in November arrived early thanks to London Bridge falling down.

So I'm packing my bags for the Misty Mountains (August 28 to September 3, 2022)

Rank Article Class Views Image Notes/about
1 The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power 1,564,791 The prequel to J. R. R. Tolkien's novel The Lord of the Rings, set thousands of years before the events of The Hobbit, premiered this week in the form of a television series. Although the first two episodes have received generally positive reviews, the series has received less critical acclaim than Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy, and Amazon's marketing for the series has even extended to video games.
2 Serena Williams 1,542,068 After a truly stellar career in tennis, Serena Williams's career ended at the US Open after a loss to Australian player Ajla Tomljanović. She retires as the greatest woman tennis player of her generation.
3 Mikhail Gorbachev 1,481,729 The last leader of the Soviet Union died this week from complications related to a long illness according to Russian media at the age of 91. Gorbachev, widely known for his paradigms of glasnost and perestroika, the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and as the subject of "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!", was widely praised in the West, although his reception in Russia and the Balkan states is less positive. A funeral for Gorbachev was held later this week, and although he received elements of a state funeral such as a guard of honor, Gorbachev was not granted a state funeral. Many were there, but current Russian president Vladimir Putin was notably not in attendance.
4 House of the Dragon 1,425,144 The prequel to the hit HBO show Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon's second episode "The Rogue Prince" aired this week with—if Rotten Tomatoes numbers are anything to go by—a slightly less positive critic response than last week's episode.
5 Nanjing Massacre 1,250,999 In 1937 the Japanese Army committed brutal atrocities in the Chinese capital of Nanking after capturing it, which ultimately amounted to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and the rape of tens of thousands. We think it's here because a pawn shop owner from Minnesota found a bunch of photos of the event and it became major news. Hopefully he'll upload them to Commons.
6 2022 Asia Cup 939,057 After a hiatus due to the COVID-19 pandemic, this biennial cricket tournament continued this week. I've always found it funny how the tournament is meant to be for all of Asia but is usually just India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. This year, though, something weird happened: Afghanistan beat both Sri Lanka and Bangladesh! Most of the viewers here are probably Indian though, so it likely doesn't bother them as much.
7 Deaths in 2022 926,588 Just a few more weary days and then
I'll fly away
To a land where joy shall never end
I'll fly away
8 Asia Cup 828,554 It's always annoying when two similar articles get split by one other article and we have to do separate comments. It's especially annoying when it's an article we don't even do proper writeups for. I couldn't find a photo of much to do with it, so here's... an Asian Cup! Get it?
9 Liger (film) 816,750 This MMA Bollywood film released last week to an overwhelmingly negative box office performance and critical reception.
10 Manti Te'o 812,067 The release of Untold: The Girlfriend Who Didn't Exist, the sixth part in the nine-part Untold series, renewed interest in this linebacker and his clandestine relationship to a fictitious woman.

The Queen is dead, boys, and it's so lonely on a limb (September 4 to 10)

Rank Article Class Views Image Notes/about
1 Elizabeth II 16,073,459 After an extraordinarily long 70 years on the throne, Queen Elizabeth II died this week at the age of 96. If there's one thing that can be said about her, it's that she was a constant; many had never known another monarch. She was also something of a unifying figure for the United Kingdom and, to a lesser degree, the other countries where she was monarch (even those who became republics). Thus it is natural that her death would inspire a huge reaction around the world and especially in the UK, with endless tributes, large-scale mourning, and wall-to-wall news coverage.
2 Charles III 9,376,455[a] #1's eldest son, who spent decades waiting to be king, during which he married twice, to #8, mother of his children (#5, 17), and #9, and unlike his grandfather (#6) chose to keep his first name for his regal one, making him sort of a successor to the Merry Monarch. He'll start in the new job at the ripe age of 73!
3 Liz Truss 3,423,676 The UK got a shiny new prime minister, whose first days in office were soon completely overshadowed by a royal succession and a period of national mourning. Given that, it's probably worth going into some detail. Liz Truss previously served as Foreign Secretary during Boris Johnson's premiership and was also a part of the cabinets of both Theresa May and David Cameron, notably giving an infamous speech regarding pork markets in 2014. She became the PM after defeating former Chancellor of the Exchequer Rishi Sunak in the Conservative Party leadership election, held after Johnson was forced out in July. She ran a campaign centred around a right-wing laissez-faire economic pitch and a decent dollop of social conservatism; highlights included her dissing her high school and cosplaying as Margaret Thatcher. Truss has a daunting economic downturn and the seemingly never-ending Ukraine war to deal with, and expectations are pretty low, if polling is anything to go by. Truss has also come under fire for a video that was made during her career as a teenage Liberal Democrat, in which she called for the monarchy to be abolished.
4 Operation London Bridge 3,200,256 London Bridge is falling down. With the Queen's death, many learned about the "secret plan" prepared years ago for these very days. Admittedly it had been an open secret for quite a while, and had been the subject of a lot of media attention, which explains why it had an article in the first place.
Yes, that really is London Bridge. It's quite underwhelming, isn't it?
5 William, Prince of Wales 2,994,105[b] With Charles now on the throne, William is the new heir apparent, and the new Prince of Wales, as everyone moves one space up the line of succession. Let's hope he doesn't die before his dad, because next after him is a nine-year-old.
6 George VI 2,959,304 #1's father who she succeeded as monarch.
7 Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh 2,739,342 The husband of the late Queen, who died over a year prior in April 2021. The loss of Philip has often been speculated as a major cause of the Queen's declining health before her death.
8 Diana, Princess of Wales 2,630,955 The very famous royal death, the ex-wife of #2. Most of her attention isn't exactly positive for the late monarch, coming in the form of people comparing the outpourings of grief and, in select circles, making memes about how Diana plans to greet Elizabeth II in the afterlife (you can imagine).
9 Camilla, Queen consort of the United Kingdom 2,081,610[c] The new Queen (consort).
10 Brahmāstra: Part One – Shiva 1,943,982 Narrowly preventing a top-ten monopoly for Britain is the latest big Bollywood film, which looks remarkably similar to many recent Hollywood ventures (big budget, superpowers, world-scale setting and plot, plans for a shared universe, mixed to positive critical reception). Evidently the influence of the MCU is spreading into other film industries. It opened at #1 in India, #3 in the UK and #2 in the US of A (the highest position ever occupied by an Indian film).

God save the Queen, 'Cause tourists are money (September 11 to 17, 2022)

Rank Article Class Views Image Notes/about
1 Elizabeth II 6,224,957 Following her death, the coverage has been turned down some-what, with some normal scheduling returning to British TV, but it's also not over yet. But, before we look to the week ahead, let's take a look back.
On September 11, the Queen left Balmoral on the way to Edinburgh, where she stayed for two nights, the first at Holyroodhouse, and the second lying in state and St. Giles Cathedral, where 33,000 people filed past to pay their respect, and the Queen's children (#2, 6, 12 and 15) held a Vigil of the Princes. On September 13, the Queen was flown from Edinburgh to London, which became the most tracked flight in history. Since September 14, the Queen has been lying in state at Westminster Hall (leading to the local phenomenon The Queue), and will remain there until 6:30 BST on Monday, the day of her funeral. While there, both her children and grandchildren have performed the Vigil of the Princes.

On the day of the funeral itself, the Queen's coffin will leave Westminster Hall at 10:44 with the funeral service being held at 11:00, a two-minute silence will be held at the end of the funeral, with several major airports even suspending flights during this period. The Queen will then be taken to Windsor, arriving at 15:10, with a second service happening at 16:00 at St. George's Chapel, ending at 16:45. It won't be till 19:45, during a private family service, when the Queen will be buried alongside her husband Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (#7).

2 Charles III 4,139,056 He's had a tough few days. On some good news, he has already exceeded the reign of the (albeit disputed) nine-day Queen.
3 George VI 2,670,912 #1's father and the previous King, born in 1895, and King from 1936 to 1952.
4 Diana, Princess of Wales 2,584,814 #2's first wife. Her funeral, in 1997, holds the viewing figure record within the UK, at 32.1 million people (nearly 55% of the population at the time). The Queen's funeral is widely expected to beat this.
5 Brahmāstra: Part One – Shiva 2,502,254 This Bollywood film is again the only thing preventing a top-ten monopoly for the British royals, which I imagine Indian readers will find rather amusing. It is also the only article to appear in this report that is unrelated to the British royal family. Ayan Mukerji's attempt to replicate the MCU in India has gotten off to an okay start, although still faces a daunting task to recoup its massive budget.
6 Anne, Princess Royal 2,151,398 The Queen's second child and only daughter.
7 Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh 1,811,670 Described as the love of her life, Prince Philip was Elizabeth II's husband, the father of the new King, and the longest serving royal consort in history. Philip and Elizabeth were married from their marriage 1947 until Philip's death in 2021, a year prior to Elizabeth's death.
8 William, Prince of Wales 1,800,986 The oldest child of the new King, which makes him the heir-apparent. He also received a promotion to Prince of Wales, a title held by his father until his accession.
9 Edward VIII 1,774,375 The Queen's uncle, who was King for 11 months in 1936. He abdicated his position in order to marry Wallis Simpson, nicknamed the abdication crisis. The Duke of Windsor, as he was known after his abdication, served his life in de facto exile in France until his death in 1972.
10 Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon 1,766,856 The Queen's younger sister, who died in 2002.

The evil that men do lives on and on (September 17 to 24)

Rank Article Class Views Image Notes/about
1 Jeffrey Dahmer 8,365,786 An infamous serial killer who haunted the city of Milwaukee, Wisconsin for years, during which time he killed and desecrated seventeen people. I'd go into more detail, but I don't really need to; for one, it's awful; for two, you could just watch the Netflix series about him (or read his Wikipedia article, as eight million people did this week). Neither are for the faint-hearted.
2 Elizabeth II 4,177,027 After 10 days of mourning, the erstwhile Queen was laid to rest in St. George's Chapel at Windsor Castle, marking a definitive end to the second Elizabethan era.
I'm not so keen on the services, but the synchronised marching and music was nice to watch (in a respectful way, of course)
3 Charles III 1,992,713 So I guess this is it. Charles is now the King. That's really weird, isn't it?
4 George VI 1,989,940 #2's father and sister.
5 Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon 1,732,233
6 Christopher Scarver 1,684,441 #1 isn't alive anymore, not because he was executed, but because this fellow convicted murderer beat him to death with a metal bar in prison, allegedly motivated by racial grievances.
7 Edward VIII 1,378,696 #2's uncle, daughter and ex-daughter-in-law.
8 Anne, Princess Royal 1,356,536
9 Diana, Princess of Wales 1,306,363
10 House of the Dragon 1,257,174 <checks data> Yeah, it's still here.

Exclusions

  • These lists exclude the Wikipedia main page, non-article pages (such as redlinks), and anomalous entries (such as DDoS attacks or likely automated views). Since mobile view data became available to the Report in October 2014, we exclude articles that have almost no mobile views (5–6% or less) or almost all mobile views (94–95% or more) because they are very likely to be automated views based on our experience and research of the issue. Please feel free to discuss any removal on the Top 25 Report talk page if you wish.


2022-09-30

A few complaints and mild disagreements

In some months, the weather can just be disagreeable. In other months maybe it's people who seem to be disagreeable. This month it seems like the media all found something to disagree with, either about Wikipedia's coverage or with our policies. Or maybe we disagree with them. It was that kind of month.

Fox in the outhouse

In Wikipedia’s Fox News Problem (Slate), author Samuel Breslow – who is listed as a long time Wikipedia editor – explains how a novel-length reliable sources debate decided to allow Fox News to be used for non-controversial facts. "If outlets like Fox News are permitted, Wikipedia’s view of the world will look more like Fox's" was part of Slate's distillation of the importance of reliable source determination on Wikipedia content. Major debates (community Requests for Comment) took place in 2010, 2020 and the most recent debate closed this month. The article's author interviewed Wikipedia administrator and member of the Arbitration Committee Kevin Li, who closed the September Request for Comment, for his interpretation of the process, and the article quotes him extensively. – B

A new Wiki-villain?

Placeholder alt text
A new villain or just the same old Snidely Whiplash?

YouTuber and Washington Post columnist J. J. McCullough – a retired Wikipedian who long ago drew the image shown here on the right – has released a 22-minute YouTube video titled "Why I hate Wikipedia (and you should too!)". He criticizes Wikipedia's de facto information monopoly, which he says crowds out other sites and reduces information diversity, and its writing style, complaining about the length and disorganized detail in articles. He really dislikes the anonymity and unaccountability of Wiki-editors – especially of admins and other hard-core editors. He likens Wikipedia to McDonalds: a place to go to get fast, cheap fare when you are hungry but don't really care about quality. There might be some truth in his lengthy and detailed list of complaints, though his description of the editor who has contributed nearly half a percent of all edits to Wikipedia as having written a third of it does seem wildly out.

Indeed, McCullough says that he doesn't read Wikipedia. In the first 30 seconds of the video, he states that in his seven years of creating videos he has never consulted the august online encyclopedia that anyone can edit; that for over a decade he has blocked the site from his browser; and that he uses Google's hide search feature to ensure that he does not see Wikipedia in search results. So how does he know so much about Wikipedia?

In 2008 two articles related to McCullough were deleted: Filibuster Cartoons (his website) and J.J. McCullough. Four further attempts were made to recreate the article about him, either as J.J. McCullough or J. J. McCullough (note the extra space). After the last of these was deleted in 2020, the creation of new articles by those titles was blocked.

The video has attracted detailed comment at the Village Pump, with allegations that McCullough is angry that the biographies of him have been deleted. Others there have speculated that he is a former admin. We reached out to McCullough for further comment, but he has not replied. S

Accurate and reliable, fair and balanced, just and proper

In Evidence suggests Wikipedia is accurate and reliable. When are we going to start taking it seriously? science writer Liam Mannix in The Sydney Morning Herald uses the case of Queen Elizabeth II's death to demonstrate how fast and accurate Wikipedia is.

this is ... not something we should expect. Wikipedia is free. Its editors are volunteers. There is no expertise or academic qualifications required. We are told again and again that we can’t trust it because anyone could be writing it. It should be the worst place on the internet.

Yet published evidence suggests it is reasonably reliable – at least as reliable as its competitor the Encyclopedia Britannica.

He links to academic studies on six specific subject areas – mostly medical but also one on general political coverage. All of these studies confirm Wikipedia's accuracy. He links to two broader (and older) studies that give Wikipedia better than passing marks. And a linked 2014 meta-analysis of 110 studies concludes '"Wikipedia is generally a reliable source of information" across almost all domains studied.' – S

"Deaditors"

The term "deaditors"—Wikipedia editors who memorialize the pages of notables who have recently died—was previously mentioned on this page in The Signpost in 2018. As Annie Rauwerda explains in Input, the term started with an article written by a Dutch Wikipedian, which was then reported on in Slate. The term has also been used recently in a few foreign-language reports (Italian, Spanish, Czech).

Other media covering the phenomenon this month include Gizmodo, Metro UK, Yahoo! (which says deaditors are also known as "WikiJackals"), The Sydney Morning Herald, NPR, Kim Komando [1] and The Wall Street Journal.

Most of the reports reflect a sense of wonder, or even awe, at how well Wikipedians perform this task.

Was ex-CEO Maher a Monty Python encyclopedia salesman?

Simon Garfield in The death of the door-to-door encyclopaedia salesman in inews recalls a 2020 email from Katherine Maher asking for a £20 donation for Wikipedia. In 2017 he had donated £2, and then he got the email asking for more. At that point Garfield took at least one amazing action. He compared Maher's position to that of an encyclopedia salesman in a 1967 Monty Python comedy sketch.

Of course the self-identified thief later turns out to be an encyclopedia salesman, who would rather people think him a thief.

Garfield is a professional writer who uses Wikipedia extensively. He's written a history of encyclopedias, All The Knowledge in the World: The Extraordinary History of the Encyclopaedia. He thinks that "Wikipedia is one of the greatest things on the internet".

After talking with Maher, he donated £12.

Maher is now a Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council's Digital Forensic Research Lab. She was recently appointed a member of the US Department of State’s Foreign Affairs Policy Board, an advisory panel established a decade ago by Hillary Clinton.

Runiversalis is back

Will the real anti-Nazis please stand up? Still striving for that Nazi-free vibe on Runiversalis.
Euronews reports that Runiversalis, Russia's Wikipedia alternative, is now back online, having weathered cyberattacks. While "search engines are now forced to inform online users in Russia that Wikipedia violates the country’s legislation", Runiversalis "repeats the Kremlin's narrative that Russia wants to 'denazify' and 'demilitarise' Ukraine. The website also states that its authors will only promote 'traditional values' on subjects such as gender and sexuality, raising concerns from the LGBTQ community."

The Atlantic Council's abovementioned Digital Forensic Research Lab also reported on Runiversalis. Its article, published on Medium, described the new site as "an attempt to spread Russian propaganda and disinformation in the guise of a wiki. Beyond using the underlying software architecture employed by Wikipedia, it’s a wiki in name only." Runiversalis, meanwhile, has apparently repurposed Wikipedia's "Did You Know?" section into an "I Knew It!" section with trivia such as "American politicians, political scientists, and journalists admit that United States turned into empire of lies". The Medium article also states that Runiversalis, unlike Wikipedia, "does not provide editing options for the general public; when the site still allowed user registration, a message would appear after registration, informing the user, 'You do not have permission to create this page.' It openly acknowledges it operates under Russia's restrictive media laws."

The overarching pattern here, bearing in mind China's own huge internet encyclopedias, Baike.com and Baidu Baike, is that governments everywhere – unsurprisingly, perhaps – take a keen interest in having user-generated encyclopedias that propagate their respective views of the world. Thank God the United States government has never done anything to mess around with Wikipedia... AK

Banned in Texas, or unregulated, or something

Placeholder alt text
Did judge Andy Oldham rule that WP can't monitor its content?

Wait, shit! Speaking of user-generated encyclopedias that propagate their respective views of the world, Judge Andy Oldham of the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Texas House Bill 20 in mid-September. The law restricts some content providers' ability to moderate (or censor, depending on your point of view) public speech hosted on their sites based on viewpoint, with some exceptions for public safety and compliance with federal laws. Sites that are covered under the law operate in Texas, have "an Internet website or application that is open to the public, allows a user to create an account, and enables users to communicate with other users for the primary purpose of posting information, comments, messages, or images" and over 50 million active U.S. users a month.

The Techdirt analysis "Did The 5th Circuit Just Make It So That Wikipedia Can No Longer Be Edited In Texas?" questions whether Twitter – one of the three companies the state testified was targeted by the law – qualifies, with its many bot accounts. But then Techdirt speculates that Wikipedia might qualify. If so, according to the analysis, the site's owners – Wikimedia Foundation – may not be able to regulate some of the encyclopedia's content without violation of the Texas law.

Given that WMF so rarely directly interacts with site content it's not clear to this editor what the net effect of the ruling would be – assuming they don't block Texas editors to avoid running afoul of HB 20. It's also completely speculative that any judge would view the creation of a fact-based encyclopedia as protected viewpoint speech. – B

In brief

Placeholder alt text
Is the dissemination of free information "catnip for the Supreme Court"?



Do you want to contribute to "In the media" by writing a story or even just an "in brief" item? Edit next month's edition in the Newsroom or leave a tip on the suggestions page.


Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2022-09-30/Technology report Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2022-09-30/Essay


2022-09-30

Are we ever going to reach consensus?

A collage of many AfD comments.
No consensus?

Wikipedia has lots to explore, especially for editors. When I was only a reader of Wikipedia, I would just look at the information and not really bother to look further. Now as an editor, I've found that there is so much to be discovered, like Wikiprojects and the Teahouse. But I had never wondered what would happen if an article had to be deleted. In fact, I'd thought all articles were perfect — Featured Article status – so they would never have to be deleted. Articles for deletion has so much to discover. Most of the time, it's only a few people participating, but sometimes, it can turn into a long line of comments and opinions...

So, what happened?

I was just scrolling one day to find some Articles for Deletion discussion pages when I came across a discussion for the article on the Death of Mikhail Gorbachev. Now, when I first saw the title of the article, I was a bit skeptical. What's an important topic doing at AfD? Then I started to read the nominator's argument, and I looked at the article itself, and so I said to myself: wait a minute, they actually had a good reason for nominating this! There were quite a few opinions there already on what to do, more than I normally saw, so I decided I should have a voice. After making my decision on what to do, I had my say.

Anyway, I like to check up on the discussion after I !vote on an Articles for Deletion discussion. When I clicked the page, here's what I found:

There were so many !votes!

This continued for the next couple of days. More !votes, and more, and more. Eventually the discussion closed, with the result being "no consensus." I didn't think there was going to be any, anyway. I checked recently, and the article is like this now.

But why did this take so many !votes?

Most articles for deletion discussions aren't like this. They have a couple of !votes, and that's it. Like this one:

Example AfD

Then some are longer.. but not super long like the Death of Mikhail Gorbachev article.

Example AfD

Some are really, really long!

Example AfD

This deletion discussion is also super long, and I found this one while I was writing this article. It's from when the talk page at WikiProject User Rehab got nominated for deletion. (Which is kind of ironic, because actually I'm a participant in Wikiproject User Rehab, so if this had been deleted then I could have never joined.) The final result to this discussion was "no consensus."

But you've already seen the Death of Mikhail Gorbachev article, and you too saw that it had also reached no consensus. Why did these two not reach consensus? I think it has to do with the amount of !votes. Coming to an agreement is really hard when you have so many people voicing their opinions. It's a bit like having a speech and debate contest- except for one person against another there are fifty people on each side. Would it be hard then for the judge (in Wikipedia's case, an administrator), to decide what to do? Yes. That might be why we don't reach consensus with these Article for Deletion discussions... but why do so many !votes get there in the first place? I think the reason why some Articles for Deletion discussions have lots and lots of !votes is because the article nominated for deletion gets lots of views— like a newsworthy item. We can kind of come up with a rule of thumb:

The more views an article that is nominated for deletion gets, the more !votes it will get on its deletion discussion page.

Obviously the Death of Mikhail Gorbachev was a newsworthy event, so the Death of Mikhail Gorbachev article got a lot of views, which led to a lot of !votes. But even though these discussions get a lot of !votes, your !vote still counts. So !vote. If you're an administrator, all I can say in these scenarios is— you're going to be scrolling down for quite a while! Thank you.



2022-09-30

Board vote results, bot's big GET, crat chat gives new mop, WMF seeks "sound logo" and "organizer lab"

Could it be the next Wikimedia sound logo?

Wikimedia Foundation: "Join the Organizer Lab beta! Join the first cohort of training for Topics for Impact campaigns"

Climate change and sustainability is the first "topic for impact" selected for an "Organizer lab" designed to teach people to recruit volunteers to address related content gaps in various languages

The Wikimedia Foundation believes that the role of WMF-supported organizers recruiting volunteers to work on the projects is of critical importance to growing content and retaining contributors. To date, it says:

the path to organizing has been very organic, loosely supported by grant-making and the work of our affiliate network. But the Movement Strategy asks us to focus on Investing in Skills and Leadership Development and Identifying Topics for Impact. We need to get more deliberate about asking questions like:

  • How are we inviting the next generation of editors and volunteers to our movement to help us address a universe of knowledge gaps?
  • Are we creating clear pathways for organizers to gain all the skills or knowledge they need to champion the Wikimedia Movement well?

By mentoring and working with organizers over the last three years to understand campaigns around the world, the Campaigns Team at the Wikimedia Foundation has learned how to help organizers design campaigns that bring in the next generation of contributors. We are going to share those lessons and experiences in an Organizer Lab (beta) focused on campaigns and organizing around “Topics for Impact”. Though we hope to expand to support other topics and themes in the coming years, the first cohort will be themed around a topic of rising interest across the movement: Climate Change and Sustainability.

The Organizer lab will be a 9-week online course running from late October to mid-December. For further details, see the Wikimedia blog post. AK

Wikimedia sound logo contest launched

The Wikimedia Foundation has launched a sound logo contest.

Take a note – from 13 September to 10 October 2022, everyone, everywhere is invited to help create a sound logo for the Wikimedia projects.

A sound logo is a brief collection of sounds, often between 2 and 4 seconds long. Sound logos have gained popularity with the rise of audio technology globally; the number of active voice assistant users has grown from 544.1 million in 2015 to 2.6 billion in 2021. Wikimedia projects increasingly power other websites, search engines, and general knowledge queries on voice-assisted devices, but many listeners are not aware because the source of the information is not consistently identified. A sound logo is needed to help listeners identify when they are accessing trusted, verifiable knowledge from Wikimedia projects. In harmony with our values and as always curious to experiment and learn, we will have an open contest for the sound of all human knowledge and invite the world to participate.

AK

Mike Peel, Shani Sigalov elected to WMF board seats

Two seats were open in the Wikimedia Foundation's board, and there were six candidates. With a total of 5,922 votes in the election, the two candidates selected were Mike Peel (Mike Peel) and Shani Evenstein Sigalov (Esh77). During the end in round 5, Mike Peel had been elected with 1,995 votes. The second seat was decided in the final round, when Shani Evenstein Sigalov had gotten approximately 1,835 votes. – H

WikiCleanerBot rolls decs

Check 'em – congratulations to NicoV, whose bot has achieved Wikipedia's 1,111,111,111 GET. An anonymous server kitty is claimed to have said "that's an awful lot of 1s in the same place, hopefully nothing similar will happen for about fifteen years when we expect to need the same number of 2s". The Mayor of Vayres, Gironde is probably unaware of the special status his commune has just acquired in the English speaking world. – W

Community safety and comfort

The results for the English Wikipedia on the safety survey.

In June and July of 2022, the Wikimedia movement released a community safety survey. This was to find out whether or not a user felt safe and comfortable contributing to Wikipedia. The question asked was:

In the last 30 days, have you felt unsafe or uncomfortable contributing to Wikipedia?

The survey was sent to users on five different languages of Wikipedia: the English Wikipedia, the Farsi Wikipedia, the French Wikipedia, the Spanish Wikipedia and the Portuguese Wikipedia. The answers to choose from were "Yes," "No," and "I'm not sure." The results turned out to be that the unweighted results (there were two versions of responses: weighted and unweighted) on the English Wikipedia showed that 75.3% of Wikipedians felt safe and comfortable on Wikipedia, 15.9% of Wikipedians felt unsafe or uncomfortable, and 8.8% of them were not sure. The proportions of users feeling unsafe were somewhat higher on the Spanish (24.4%) and Portuguese (26.0%) Wikipedias. – H

Call for feedback on leadership definition

In February a Call for Feedback was published by the Community Development (CD) team about a Leadership Development Working Group. The Call for Feedback was shared in 42 languages. The Call for Feedback was used to get feedback from the community on the meaning of "leader," the working group's composition, and the need for continued feedback. The Leadership Development Working Group recently published its leadership definition and invited feedback. – H

Brief notes


2022-09-30

Removing watermarks, copyright signs and cigarettes from photos

I like to add photographs to Wikipedia articles. The addition of a visual aspect improves the quality of an article, and gives a better view on a subject. If the photo isn't reflecting reality, it can also influence the opinion of readers. That’s why many Wikipedians try to improve the quality of photos. I have seen astonishing improvements of photographs, but also weird effects. Some photographs are beautified so much, that the new photograph is an improved version of reality.

Watermarks, scratches and cigarettes

I have to admit: I crop photographs. I also remove watermarks, or ask skilled colleagues to make that happen (thank you, Wikipedians at the Graphics Lab). I don’t particularly like scratches and blurs, but where’s the limit? Clearing a background, removal of persons or buildings, image restoration: it all happens at Commons. There’s one line I won’t cross: changing the characteristics of a photograph. Yes, I have seen cigarettes removed from the lips of one of my cultural heroes (“just a small retouch”), and the retouched photograph was used in 10 language versions of Wiki, over a period of six years. I pushed the original photograph back in.

Vanity of vanities! All is vanity

When money is involved, attitudes change. The management of The Weeknd wanted his image to change in 2020, and thus wanted to abolish the then current photo in Wikipedia. They hired a company to take legal action via a request for removal of this 2017 photograph in Wiki (DMCA Removal Request, 2020). The result was devastating for Commons: not only was the photograph removed, but two great administrators resigned during the resulting row.

I love removing watermarks and copyright signs from photos in Commons– if permitted by the license. Most photographs in Wikimedia Commons have either a PD or a CC-BY-license, and both permit removing watermarks. At the same time, I like to respect photographers. The rules in Wikipedia regarding removal of watermarks are quite clear. I'm inclined to adhere to the most likely interpretation (in short: removal of (copyright) watermarks is in line with CC-BY-SA and not a legal violation), because CC-BY permits changing of files and removal of watermarks. Some Wikipedians say this issue is not an issue of copyright, but is about ethics. They say it would be disrecpectful or insulting to remove the copyright claims. My simple answer: if you don’t want your photo to be touched by others, don’t bring them under a CC-BY-license.

My suggestion: the proposed Commons guideline should also promote removal of visible copyright signs of images under a CC-BY license.


Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2022-09-30/Op-ed


2022-09-30

NPP: Still heaven or hell for new users – and for the reviewers

MB and Novem Linguae took on the task of joint lead coordinators of New Page Patrol this year following the long void left by other coordinators who had moved on. Kudpung was de facto coordinator for many years before retiring from it in March 2017. The views expressed in this article are those of the authors alone and do not reflect any official opinions of this publication.

Just what is NPP? Why does it need the WMF? Why does it need YOU?

Graph of NPP backlog
The slight downward trend in the backlog from the 2nd week of September is due to the work of just one reviewer returning from an absence of several months due to burn out. On average, the New Pages Feed receives 750 - 1,000 articles every 24 hours.Database: Top new article reviewers

Four years ago, in October 2018, the Signpost article "NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers" reported on the New pages patrol process and the challenges it faces. Today, those issues produce new hurdles to keeping the encyclopedia clean – and the need for upgrades to its software is even more acute.

Earlier this month, in a last ditch attempt to draw the Foundation’s attention to the need for developer work on the PageTriage/Curation tools, an open letter from 444 users and admins was published along with notifications to senior WMF staff, and to the members of the Board of Trustees. In the absence of a more detailed hierarchical organigramme, it is assumed that the Contributors Product Management team subordinate to the 'Product' section headed by new CPTO Selena Deckelmann, is responsible for declining or delaying the urgently needed attention.

Out of a total of 165 open NPP tickets at Phabricator, over half are 4 years old or more with many going back to 2012

A Page Curation tool
A tool in the Page Curation interface of Page Triage
A Page Triage tool
The reviewers' New Page Feed in Page Triage

New Page Reviewers use the page curation system to review new articles and pass them for indexing for search engines, or to propose them for further improvement or deletion. Unfortunately, the community has too few capable and competent people at NPP and despite occasional drives to address it, today's backlog still stands at an untenable level. Software improvements, both bug reports and feature requests, that would help and encourage reviewers do this job have been languishing unaddressed at Phabricator for months and even years. Commenting on the WMF's rejection of ACTRIAL in their 2011 article in The Signpost, users Skomorokh, Jorgenev, and Daniel Mietchen suggest that:

Wikipedia has over 700 New Page Reviewers. Only around 100 are moderately active and only 25 or so perform the majority of the reviews.

Knowing that an appeal was in preparation, a WMF director of product engineering made a pre-emptive post on the task force talk page in which they placed the blame for the lack of software support squarely at the feet of the New Page Patrol team for not having submitted requests to the Community Wishlist. The Wishlist is an annual programme since 2015 where contributors from all Wikimedia projects can ask for those small changes that they would most like to see. Indeed, the NPP group did avail of the process in 2018 and completely swamped it, but that was four years ago. Paradoxically, the response continued by listing other WMF engineering commitments as an explanation of why they don’t have the funds or capacity for NPP. There was also an opaque reference to a need to rewrite the tool: "current projects that we've prioritized above rewriting PageTriage." If they believe it is beyond normal maintenance, that may be another reason why they are providing little support. The WMF's post was made before the letter was published and the NPP team does not consider their comments to be wholly felicitous.

Despite the bold claim in their Annual Plan 2022-2023 Goal #1:

the WMF makes no mention of supporting the trusted knowledge in their flagship project, the English Wikipedia.

How well informed is the Board of Trustees?

During a July live streamed 'Conversation with the Trustees' (see transcript below), in answer to a pre-submitted question from Atsme, a New Page Reviewer: "What is the Foundation doing to protect New Pages Patrol and Articles for Creation from system overload?" the response from the board's vice-chair, Shani Evenstein, stated that PageTriage was 'community developed' (which it was not: Engagement strategy - New Page Triage) and that NPP volunteers should wait for at least six months and request the work through the Wishlist.

While researching for a reply, in contrast to their claim of "...to have honest and meaningful conversations [...] We prepare for these meetings and send an agenda of main topics, and post it on Meta, a week in advance, and make sure to go through these agenda items".[6] they were apparently either misinformed or they misinterpreted the information provided by their source. Insisting that important technical matters are not at all within the board's 'remit', it is interesting to note how unaware the board appears to be of the importance of the flagship encyclopedia to the Foundation's very existence. In a follow up thread on the reviewers' talk page Ms Evenstein offered some words of encouragement, giving hope for future collaboration:

I cannot promise an immediate solution, but I can promise it will be properly discussed. To make sure expectations are realistic, I will add that this topic / issue / problem statement requires further discussions internally, both with our CEO and our new CPTO. As you may know, we have just hired a new CPTO, who will be starting in August. Whatever operational solutions WMF will come up with for this stated problem, it will have to include her. Till she settles in, and till we are able to strategize around this topic (and other related technologically-related topics) further in collaboration with staff, our Product department continues to be aware and continue to work on it to the extent they can; but I hope it is clear that talking about longer-term solutions, a bit more time will be needed to make sure this is properly discussed.

Ms Evenstein has recently been re-elected to the board, while newly elected Mike Peel comes directly from the English Wikipedia community. A user since 2005 and an administrator since 2007, he was one of two candidates campaigning on a platform of more board involvement on the shop floor:

Although there have been hiccups in the past, some serious, the board generally acts within the movement's best interests, but anyone watching the video of the Board of Trustees responding to Atsme's question cannot fail to recognise the board's reply as inadequate and mildly patronising.

No money?

WMF receipts and expenditure up to 2021

Writing in The Signpost Op-ed Wikipedia has cancer about the Foundation's flow of funds, Guy Macon, a financial consultant, states:

…their poor handling of software development has been well known for many years. The answer to the WMF's problems with software development has been well known for decades and is extensively documented in books such as The Mythical Man-Month and Peopleware: Productive Projects and Teams […] This failure is almost certainly a systemic problem directly caused by top management, not by the developers doing the actual work.

Macon's more recent essay, an updated version of Wikipedia has Cancer, is a testament to the runaway spending on pet projects and non-core functions while neglecting the volunteers, and still leaving the Foundation with current disposable assets in excess of US$200 million The volunteers are the project's major stakeholder and the NPP team on whose work the reputation of the articles depends, is hoping for a substantive response and one that comes from the Foundation's senior executive staff, especially CPTO Selena Deckelmann, and Maryana Iskander, the CEO. In view of the rapidly growing surplus of donations, the stock justifications for inaction are wearing thin; the community is trusting in offers of serious engagement on quality control, rather than further rejections and intangible reasons why it can't or won't be done.

As of press time, the New Page Review team has received an acknowledgement by email from the Trustees, but no official public response to the letter from them or the WMF. We reached out to the board and the WMF regarding this article in the Signpost. The board pointed out a minor error in the staff which has been corrected, but the WMF has not offered any comment.

The New Page Reviewer's petition

Dear Wikimedia Foundation and Board of Trustees,
It is our understanding that PageTriage—an essential MediaWiki extension used by the English Wikipedia's New Pages Patrol (NPP)—is not considered an active project within the WMF, and that software support for PageTriage is currently minimal; we cannot expect anything except critical fixes to maintain the present functionality.
New Page Patrolling by the New Page Reviewers is a critical function necessary to keep Wikipedia from being overrun with new articles that don't meet the community's standards for inclusion. While some members of the community seem to be obsessed with growing the number of articles (and many of us feel the WMF shares in that belief), others feel that the reputation of Wikipedia as a reliable and trustworthy repository of knowledge is best served by having "5.5 million good articles, instead of 6.5 million, of which 1 million are junk".
Because having a Wikipedia article today lends credibility to any topic, it has become a valuable commodity. With the rapid increase in availability of the Internet and low cost smart phones, there is always a huge number of articles seeking to promote products, businesses, and people of all professions. Some fear that Wikipedia is headed towards resembling "daisies (good articles) growing in a sewer". There are millions of existing articles that need some kind of improvement, and far too few editors working on these to make significant headway. We must ensure that all further additions at least meet our minimum standards for inclusion in the encyclopedia, as determined by the community consensus, as reflected in its policies and guidelines. This torrent of inferior articles is primarily stopped by the hard work and dedication of a limited number of us, the English Wikipedia NPP reviewers.
The "NPP team" currently has only around 100 people moderately active and only 25 or so that perform the majority of the reviews. For a few years now, a handful of people did a disproportionate number of reviews, and when they left the project, the number of unreviewed articles shot up to nearly 16,000 on a trajectory that indicated potential collapse. A concerted focus averted a crisis and the backlog, although still high, has been reduced. But all NPP volunteers are subject to "burnout" as it is mostly a thankless job, because "passing" an article is mostly a silent action without reward or fanfare, while "failing" one can bring stress and agitation during the deletion process.
NPP must be able to function without short-term herculean efforts by a few editors who inevitably quit at some point, and without periodic crisis modes triggered by runaway backlogs.
What the Foundation can do now to help NPP is: improve the PageTriage software. The software was rolled out ten years ago, and with the exception of some improvements in 2018, has had little attention for several years. There are bugs identified years ago that remain unfixed, and people get by after learning what works and what work-arounds to use. There have been dozens of enhancements requested that would make the system more efficient and easier to use. The plan when PageTriage was designed was that it be self-contained, i.e. provide all the functionality needed during the review process. It is not there yet. A better system will improve the workflow of the relatively small number of active reviewers, as well as potentially keep them engaged and make it easier to recruit new members.
NPP may have other issues that can only be addressed by the community, but we should not be fighting the software. We request that the PageTriage suite of apps be designated an active project with developer resources allocated. A specific WMF software engineer or WMF team should have ownership of it, and their responsibilities should include reviewing patches submitted by volunteers in a timely manner, fixing any and all reproducible bugs, and working on top features requested by NPP. The current status quo of having no maintainer, and with the Growth Team abstractly being the code stewards, while not having the time or resources to provide fixes, enhancements, or even to review and deploy volunteer-submitted patches is problematic.
The English Wikipedia NPP team stands ready to work together to identify and prioritize the issues. Please assign some resources so that we can properly maintain this important tool.
Kind regards,
The undersigned
  1. MB 01:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
  2. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:11, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. Kj cheetham (talk) 21:32, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. Qwerfjkltalk 21:34, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  5. Osarius 21:39, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  6. KRtau16 (talk) 21:47, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  7. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:05, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  8. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 22:13, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  9. Goldsztajn (talk) 22:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  10. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 22:50, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  11. Complex/Rational 23:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  12. Novem Linguae (talk) 23:26, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  13. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:59, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  14. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:03, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  15. Compassionate727 (T·C) 02:33, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  16. Insertcleverphrasehere(or here)(or here)(or here) 03:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  17. Clovermoss (talk) 03:46, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  18. —Ganesha811 (talk) 04:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  19. R E A D I N G Talk to the Beans? 04:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  20. DocFreeman24 (talk) 04:39, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  21. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:38, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  22. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:55, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  23. SCHolar44 🇦🇺 💬 at 06:08, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  24. Dr vulpes (💬📝) 07:14, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  25. --88.240.155.67 (talk) 09:46, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  26. MarkDask 09:55, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  27. Mccapra (talk) 10:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  28. MER-C 10:46, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  29. Onel5969 TT me 10:56, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  30. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). 11:17, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  31. Shellwood (talk) 11:47, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  32. Atlantic306 (talk) 14:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  33. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 16:42, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  34. Geoff | Who, me? 17:15, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  35. Red-tailed hawk (nest) 18:23, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  36. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:51, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  37. Ovinus (talk) 22:30, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  38. PMC(talk) 02:24, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  39. PK650 (talk) 02:44, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  40. The Aafī (talk) 03:46, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  41. – numbermaniac 07:36, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  42. WikiAviator talk 08:23, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  43. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 08:44, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  44. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 17:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  45. Curbon7 (talk) 19:02, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  46. PamD 20:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  47. Netherzone (talk) 01:27, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  48. Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 09:23, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  49. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:33, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  50. CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {CX}) 11:20, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  51. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 15:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  52. Atsme 💬 📧 15:11, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  53. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:12, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  54. BilledMammal (talk) 23:58, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  55. Thingofme (talk) 02:09, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
  56. Bilorv (talk) 09:42, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
  57. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 12:09, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
  58. -- lomrjyo talk 14:33, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
  59. IAmChaos(alt acct - please ping my main) 22:21, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
  60. MaxnaCarta (talk) 01:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
  61. Retswerb (talk) 03:35, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
  62. MJL‐Talk‐ 04:13, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
  63. Schierbecker (talk) 06:06, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
  64. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:16, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
  65. pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 19:35, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
  66. Danre98(talk^contribs) 19:38, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
  67. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:34, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
  68. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 04:37, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
  69. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 15:37, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
  70. BusterD (talk) 00:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
  71. Oaktree b (talk) 02:37, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
  72. jp×g 09:11, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
  73. --Tryptofish (talk) 14:56, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
  74. Toadspike (talk) 23:27, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
  75. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:19, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
  76. Usedtobecool ☎️ 08:24, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
  77. Pichpich (talk) 17:50, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
  78. Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:19, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
  79. Mike1901 (talk) 14:56, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
  80. Zakhx150 (talk) 10:42, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
  81. Tymon.r Do you have any questions? 18:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
  82. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:01, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
  83. Kurtis (talk) 01:34, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  84. Fredlesaltique (talk) 02:20, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  85. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:21, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  86. (t · c) buidhe 15:37, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  87. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 00:02, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  88. Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:01, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  89. HouseBlastertalk 02:01, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  90. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:42, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  91. ––FormalDude talk 23:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  92. – Pbrks (t • c) 23:14, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  93. Meena • 23:15, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  94. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 23:16, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  95. Gderrin (talk) 23:17, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  96. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:30, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  97. Red Phoenix talk 23:30, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  98. Paradoxsociety 23:32, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  99. Miniapolis 23:35, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  100. --John B123 (talk) 23:37, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  101. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 23:40, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  102. Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 23:44, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  103. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:48, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  104. Sirdog (talk) 23:54, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  105. --Finngall talk 23:55, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  106. ubiquity (talk) 23:59, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  107. Devonian Wombat (talk) 00:05, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  108. Kingsif (talk) 00:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  109. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 00:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  110. Dan arndt (talk) 00:22, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  111. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:25, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  112. ASUKITE 00:27, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  113. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 00:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  114. --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:37, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  115. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 00:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  116. Troutfarm27 (Talk) 00:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  117. --Steve Quinn (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  118. Alyo (chat·edits) 01:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  119. W42 01:06, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  120. Yeeno (talk) 01:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  121. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:08, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  122. NoonIcarus (talk) 01:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  123. Kb.au (talk) 01:11, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  124. Kerry (talk) 01:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  125. MarioJump83 (talk) 01:17, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  126. Jbh Talk 01:21, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  127. weeklyd3 (block | talk | contributions) 01:25, 21 August 2022 (UTC) (I am not a reviewer, but it would be nice if the bugs in Page Curation was fixed. That would make it easier for the reviewers.)
  128. 3PPYB6TALKCONTRIBS — 01:32, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  129. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  130. signed, 511KeV (talk) 01:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  131. Dial911 (talk) 02:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  132. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 02:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  133. originalmesstalk 02:36, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  134. GenQuest "scribble" 02:43, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  135. ukexpat (talk) 03:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  136. --IJBall (contribstalk) 03:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  137.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  03:11, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  138. Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 03:16, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  139. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 03:19, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  140. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 03:24, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  141. Largoplazo (talk) 04:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  142. Htanaungg (talk) 04:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  143. Hughesdarren (talk) 04:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  144. Schwede66 05:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  145. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 05:04, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  146. --Gazal world (talk) 05:33, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  147. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 05:41, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  148. scope creepTalk 06:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  149. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  150. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 06:46, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  151. Jianhui67 TC 07:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  152. Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  153. JarrahTree 08:08, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  154. Bogger (talk) 08:23, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  155. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:37, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  156. Cahk (talk)
  157. Padgriffin Griffin's Nest 09:19, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  158. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:20, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  159. ReyHahn (talk) 09:20, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  160. Pinguinn 🐧 09:33, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  161. Caorongjin 💬 09:35, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  162.  Lefcentreright  Discuss  09:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  163. Slatersteven (talk) 09:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  164. 1TWO3Writer (talk) 11:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  165. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:05, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  166. IceWelder [] 11:26, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  167. Paul W (talk) 11:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  168. Jingiby (talk) 12:08, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  169. Tow (talk) 12:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  170. FULBERT (talk) 12:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  171. JFG talk 12:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  172. Iztwoz (talk) 13:16, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  173. --Wolbo (talk) 13:17, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  174. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 14:13, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  175. Less Unless (talk) 14:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  176. JohnThorne (talk) 15:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  177.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  16:13, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  178. signed, Rosguill talk 16:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  179. paul2520 💬 16:40, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  180. JamesG5 (talk) 16:56, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  181. JBchrch talk 17:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  182. Lightbluerain (Talk💬 Contribs✏️) 18:11, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  183.  ☆☆☆—PietadèTalk 18:22, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  184. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  185. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:31, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  186. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  187. ;; Maddy ♥︎(they/she)♥︎ :: talk  18:44, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  188. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:48, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  189. GeneralPoxter (talkcontribs) 18:48, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  190. Victor Trevor (talk) 18:58, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  191. Beccaynr (talk) 18:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  192. ElKevbo (talk) 19:01, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  193. --Vacant0 (talk) 19:02, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  194. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested transmissions °co-ords° 19:04, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  195. JSFarman (talk) 19:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  196. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:37, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  197. Indagate (talk) 19:39, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  198. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  199. Lyndaship (talk) 19:43, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  200. Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 19:46, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  201. Schazjmd (talk) 19:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  202. Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 19:58, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  203. - JCW555 (talk)♠ 20:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  204. Trey Maturin has spoken 20:15, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  205. - ThatSpiderByte (talk) 20:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  206. - Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:36, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  207. --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) ({{ping}} me!) 20:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  208. — The Most Comfortable Chair 20:53, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  209. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  210. FlyingAce✈hello 21:18, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  211. --DGaw (talk) 21:32, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  212. NightHeron (talk) 21:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  213. Gusfriend (talk) 21:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  214. MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  215. Dave.Dunford (talk) 22:18, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  216. DanCherek (talk) 23:00, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  217. SeoR (talk) 23:02, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  218. JPG-GR (talk) 23:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  219. Glendoremus (talk) 00:09, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  220. Ionmars10 (talk) 00:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  221. Sumanuil. 00:17, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  222. Stephen 00:24, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  223. PhantomTech[talk] 00:24, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  224. Innisfree987 (talk) 00:26, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  225. Carrite (talk) 00:51, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  226. Somers-all-the-time (talk) 00:55, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  227. Dan Bloch (talk) 01:14, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  228. FrederalBacon (talk) 01:39, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  229. Tpdwkouaa (talk) 02:08, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  230. ~Gwennie🐈💬 📋⦆ 02:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  231. Jschnur (talk) 02:39, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  232. Editor1769 (talk) 02:55, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  233. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:58, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  234. -- Zoo (talk) 03:02, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  235. -- Dane talk 03:19, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  236. NW1223<Howl at meMy hunts> 03:22, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  237. Bensci54 (talk) 03:27, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  238. Dubstar (talk) 03:29, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  239. GeogSage (talk) 03:42, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  240. TheSandDoctor Talk 03:50, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  241. Kleinpecan (talk) 04:19, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  242. 🌊PacificDepthstalk|contrib 05:40, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  243. Ravenswing 05:54, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  244. Vanamonde (Talk) 06:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  245. MeegsC (talk) 06:38, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  246. — Tulsi 24x7 06:39, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  247. Xxanthippe (talk) 06:43, 22 August 2022 (UTC).
  248. Abrvagl (talk) 06:59, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  249. 5225C (talk • contributions) 07:01, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  250. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:03, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  251. Dumelow (talk) 07:44, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  252. Dcheagletalkcontribs 07:56, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  253. Ruedi33a (talk) 08:03, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  254. Modussiccandi (talk) 08:14, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  255. Joeyconnick (talk) 08:35, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  256. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  257. Arado Ar 196 (CT) 09:02, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  258. Polyamorph (talk) 09:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  259. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:33, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  260. A satisfactory review process also retains new editors. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 10:07, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  261. ~StyyxTalk? 11:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  262. Lineslarge (talk) 12:13, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  263. --Kadı Message 12:31, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  264. Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 12:34, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  265. Wham2001 (talk) 12:36, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  266.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  12:43, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  267. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 13:23, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  268. Pahunkat (talk) 13:27, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  269. Dps04 (talk) 14:29, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  270. Please do it. North8000 (talk) 14:34, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  271. Indyguy (talk) 14:43, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  272. plicit 15:01, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  273. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:15, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  274. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:25, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  275. Dgorsline (talk) 16:18, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  276. Mehedi Abedin 16:30, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  277. Bluerasberry (talk) 16:34, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  278. Jalen Folf (talk) 16:35, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  279. Funcrunch (talk) 17:04, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  280. Turgan Talk 17:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  281. SilverTiger12 (talk) 17:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  282. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 17:13, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  283. Slashme (talk) 17:20, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  284. SpookiePuppy (talk) 18:26, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  285. R. S. Shaw (talk) 19:26, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  286. Hitro talk 19:53, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  287. Buckland1072 (talk) 20:06, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  288. Daniel Case (talk) 20:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  289. L.tak (talk) 20:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  290. Citing (talk) 20:29, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  291. ~ lovkal (talk) 20:33, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  292. whoisjohngalt Whoisjohngalt (talk) 20:47, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  293. Slywriter (talk) 21:01, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  294. Bonusballs (talk) 21:15, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  295. QuincyMorgan (talk) 21:28, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  296. Binksternet (talk) 22:24, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  297. Tweedle (talk) 22:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  298. Zoozaz1 (talk) 00:36, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  299. Neuropsychologist (talk) 00:48, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  300. George Ho (talk) 02:06, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  301. 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 02:14, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  302. Ravensfire (talk) 02:44, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  303. Zadora13 (talk) 04:56, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  304. NZFC(talk) (cont) 06:26, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  305. — VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 08:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  306. Xexerss (talk) 09:06, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  307. MediaKill13 (talk) 09:23, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  308. – robertsky (talk) 09:59, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  309. Dewritech (talk) 10:08, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  310. Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 10:12, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  311. Cassiopeia talk 10:22, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  312. Jolly1253 (talk) 10:47, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  313. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 11:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  314. Mooonswimmer 11:45, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  315. Mvqr (talk) 11:54, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  316. Plumbum208 (talk) 13:05, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  317. AJim (talk) 13:33, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  318. DecorumForum125 (talk) 13:41, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  319. DMacks (talk) 15:00, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  320. Yahya (talkcontribs.) 15:36, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  321. S0091 (talk) 17:07, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  322. DGG ( talk ) 17:26, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  323. Golden call me maybe? 18:06, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  324. The Banner talk 18:09, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  325. eviolite (talk) 20:56, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  326. Lfstevens (talk) 21:25, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  327. StartOkayStop (talk) 21:27, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  328. Signed,The4lines |||| (Talk) (Contributions) 22:48, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  329. Paper Luigi TC 23:31, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  330. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:23, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  331. Gricharduk (talk) 01:37, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  332. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 03:50, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  333. RDBrown (talk) 06:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  334. Musashi1600 (talk) 08:42, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  335. Quetzal1964 (talk) 08:58, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  336. Melmann 09:41, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  337. User:Haraldmmueller 10:10, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  338. Nxavar (talk) 12:21, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  339. Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:42, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  340. Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 13:06, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  341. GreenC 14:28, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  342. SmartSE (talk) 15:33, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  343. Robby.is.on (talk) 16:26, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  344. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 17:45, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  345. --ChetvornoTALK 17:53, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  346. Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 19:15, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  347. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 20:21, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  348. Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 22:27, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  349. Wil540 art (talk) 23:27, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  350. Megs (talk) 23:33, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  351. LumonRedacts 00:22, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  352. kashmīrī TALK 02:01, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  353. Tacyarg (talk) 07:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  354. Lectonar (talk) 09:38, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  355. Ammarpad (talk) 12:07, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  356. Blue Edits (talk) 12:09, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  357. Poirot09 (talk) 12:54, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  358.  Velella  Velella Talk   13:12, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  359. 0xDeadbeef 15:40, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  360. – Elisson • T • C • 16:40, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  361. Theroadislong (talk) 17:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  362. -M.nelson (talk) 21:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  363. Josey Wales Parley 21:20, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  364. Maias (talk) 23:33, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  365. LordPeterII (talk) 23:44, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  366. Marshelec (talk) 00:58, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  367. Ooligan (talk) 01:29, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  368. --Jorm (talk) 02:31, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  369. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:16, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  370. Engineerchange (talk) 04:33, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  371. Stupac88 (talk) 05:26, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  372. Pavlor (talk) 06:42, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  373. Bringingthewood (talk) 06:51, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  374. Edmund Patrick confer 11:56, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  375. Alpha3031 (tc) 13:31, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  376. Donald Albury 14:30, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  377. Cielquiparle (talk) 14:43, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  378. Smokey1232 (talk) 15:05, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  379. Femke (talk) 18:33, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  380. --Noman(Talk) 19:12, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  381. SPF121188 (talk this way) (contribs) 20:18, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
  382. --evrik (talk) 00:36, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  383. Johnbod (talk) 02:31, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  384. Chiswick Chap (talk) 03:30, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  385. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 03:58, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  386. Alanscottwalker (talk) 07:57, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  387. Andreas JN466 08:03, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  388. JennyOz (talk) 09:28, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  389. Happy days ~ LindsayHello 09:37, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  390. Perryprog (talk) 11:55, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  391. Blue Riband► 12:46, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  392. Asparagusus (interaction) 13:06, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  393. Tube·of·Light 14:08, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  394. Bocanegra (talk) 16:03, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  395. Thosbsamsgom (talk) 20:01, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  396. Intothatdarkness 20:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  397. InfiniteNexus (talk) 21:06, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  398. blueskiesdry (cloudy contribs…) 21:31, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  399. --☾Loriendrew☽ (ring-ring) 22:40, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  400. Levivich 04:11, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
  401. Bduke (talk) 07:30, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
  402. Seloloving (talk) 14:18, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
  403. -- L10nM4st3r (talk) 20:30, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
  404. JML1148 (Talk | Contribs) 00:02, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
  405. Dovaere (talk) 05:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
  406. SuperSwift (talk) 07:09, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
  407. -- Mike 🗩 15:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
  408. --Joker4lifead (talk) 21:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
  409. Cullen328 (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
  410. Certes (talk) 10:06, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  411. Boghog (talk) 12:29, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  412. Davey2010Talk 00:06, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  413. 🚂Locomotive207-talk🚂 01:42, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  414. SnowRise let's rap 01:51, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  415. --Firestar464 (talk) 02:27, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  416. Graham87 10:42, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  417. Ixtal ( T / C ) Non nobis solum. 12:31, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  418. Remagoxer (talk) 14:22, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  419. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  420. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 16:42, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  421. Python Drink (talk) 18:23, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  422. NytharT.C 20:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  423. Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:23, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  424. SpencerT•C 04:50, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
  425. Kusma (talk) 06:27, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
  426. small jars tc 09:45, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
  427. Volten001 13:31, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
  428. Espresso Addict (talk) 16:47, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
  429. Cryptic 14:15, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
  430. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:47, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
  431. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:48, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
  432. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 15:54, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
  433. Aza24 (talk) 00:15, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
  434. Generalrelative (talk) 00:44, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
  435. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 04:15, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
  436. Redactyll Talk page 18:39, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
  437. Sesamevoila (talk) 08:38, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
  438. Ciridae (talk) 13:01, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
  439. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 11:57, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
  440. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:33, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
  441. VickKiang (talk) 11:12, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
  442. -- Missionedit (talkcontribs) 03:16, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
  443. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 10:23, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  444. --Fabrictramp | talk to me 19:00, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
Notes
Transcript of Conversation with the Trustees
"First I would say that the board's role is to guide the foundation in high levels strategic decision making with our global community and movement in general in mind. We are not involved in the day-to-day operations and not involved in particular workflows and decisions that are related to specific projects that are made by different communities.

"That said, I know that this issue is probably very urgent to whoever is asking. So even though it's not within the board's remit I can say a few things from what I know. In this case I believe the question pertains in particular to the English Wikipedia. I do know that there are increasing concerns about backlogs for patrolling new pages on the English Wikipedia. We can and do understand that it can be difficult for editors working hard to moderate the content and handle all this inflow of information.

"It's important to note that the new pages patrol and articles for creation workflows are unique to English Wikipedia and are basically community developed, right. It's something that the community itself decided upon periodically with support from our Product Department, just like in the 2019 new page patrol project from talking to the good people in the Product Department.

"I can say that there is a desire to help ensure that specific projects maintain the ability to request changes they see fit. I know it can be very hard to wait when an issue feels really urgent, but these types of requests are perfect for the Community Wishlist survey, and we encourage you to actually take the concerns there when it opens in January. I hope this answers, and we welcome any further feedback on that, but again, it's not specifically related to the board."
Further reading

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2022-09-30/Arbitration report Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2022-09-30/Humour

If articles have been updated, you may need to refresh the single-page edition.

















Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2022-09-30